Craig: [00:00:00] Ricky, how the devil are you?
Ricci: [00:00:04] I’m very well. How are you?
Craig: [00:00:05] Yeah, I’m good. Thanks. Welcome through. Welcome for welcome onto the conquer food podcast is second, maybe third time you’ve
Ricci: [00:00:13] been on now.
Craig: [00:00:14] Yeah. Um, I love having you on the, on the shore, because, you know, when we look at everything that we do. Very few people have got as much experience about stuff as you, as as you have, and very few people can put it across in a manner that you do.
So I’m quite excited about this. Now I’ve got a couple of questions that I’m going to go through, but then we’re going to freestyle it and see how we get on. So a little bit of intro for Ricky. Ricky comes from Essex, originally started with Team Bootcamp in September, 2018 on the conquer food program.
After 14 weeks, he’d lost an incredible. 18 stone
Ricci: [00:00:48] in weight.
Craig: [00:00:49] Eight,
Ricci: [00:00:50] he’s just
Craig: [00:00:53] got a bit carried away. Eight stone, which is still a significant amount of weight. I think you’ll agree. And then by the end of his time at Team Bootcamp, [00:01:00] he lost 14 stores. Yeah. Until that huge, huge amount of where a complete lack completely life-changing is now.
[00:01:09] Now a chef is now part of the team and he takes care of a lot of the food and everything that team bootcamp. So not only is he got the experience of being on the conquer food program and being a bootcamper, but he’s old and losing a shit ton awareness. Fair set. But he’s also got, yeah. Experience has been part of the, of the team, that that creates the results as well, and a big part of it.
So, Ricky, anything? Anything I missed from that little intro?
Ricci: [00:01:32] Oh, I don’t know. There’s a, it feels like I’ve only been here a few weeks, but also like I’ve been here a lifetime. It’s one of those sort of weird experiences bootcamp where I know we don’t like calling it a bubble, but it’s very much has that bubble feel to it in the sense that there’s, it’s a whole world of its own.
Yeah. So I think hearing all that listed off in that way, it’s kind of, yeah. Okay. That did happen in the last year and a half.
It’s kind of insignificant the time it took and how long I’ve been here. [00:02:00] And when everything like that, it’s just I’m here and it’s, it’s team. It’s what it is, you know, if this is part of my life now, sort of thing,
Craig: [00:02:05] it’s, it’s amazing to think, I mean, and this bubble just got bigger as well with the Fijian on the documentary on the BBC that we’ve just done, which of course he was in
Ricci: [00:02:13] at my home.
A little cameo in that. Yeah, you did a little coming
Craig: [00:02:15] up, which was great. Um, so, so if we could just dive in and. The people watching this, you know, perhaps they’ve got some weight to lose. Perhaps you don’t know where to start. They can’t find the motivation, the determination, whatever it is. And perhaps, I’ve never even been to team boot camp or heard of the Conquer Food programme.
[00:02:30] So it’d be amazing if we could get some of the big hit and tips from you. Things that you, you now know to be significant that perhaps you never even thought about before. I mean, I take it before you came to camp, it was very much about trying to control calories and restrict food and all that kind of stuff.
[00:02:48] Ricci: [00:02:48] Is that, is this, I think it’s the same story as a lot of people who are trying to lose weight. Have I tried everything? I’d, well, I say I’ve tried everything. I tried all the different fat diets that are out there. I’d done slimming rather than weight Watchers. I don’t want to name them all cause I don’t give him too [00:03:00] much time.
[00:03:00] Half my useless. But you know, I’d done the really rubbish stretch shake diet side. I had a PT from the age of 15 on till I came to camp. So, you know, I never, I always thought I was doing the right things, but what I don’t think you realize until you come to campus that none of that actually really matters.
[00:03:16] That the diet and the exercise is so minimal in your progress in weight loss. And it’s all about the mentality and the mindset. Um, and the, everyone’s the same. Like nobody on a weight loss journey is any different. They’re all trying to strive towards the same common goal and they’re all struggling. And it.
[00:03:34] It’s not until you come somewhere like this where there is a sort of community of people that are in that position that you realize that you’re not the only one. You’re not that person that’s just sitting there going, why? And they don’t want the, can’t do this. Why is everyone around me? Okay, why? Why am I friends all healthy weight?
[00:03:50] Why? You know, I’ve got friends who are bigger obviously, and we share some of the same core values. But when your friends, I think it’s different if in your, I don’t want to call it normal life, but in your sort of pre bootcamp, [00:04:00] like all your, you know, post bootcamp, she knows it’s different. Yeah. Atmosphere because you’re all here and you slugging your guts, guts out to get to where you want to be.
[00:04:09] But I’ll try to think how to sort of put it in words, but it’s, it’s, it’s, everyone is the same. Everyone has that same underlying think, thought process that they can’t do it and it’s something internal or, you know, biological or. Psychological, whatever it is, that they will never be able to lose weight.
[00:04:28] Um, and until you come here, you don’t really know. No. That actually, again, that’s rubbish.
[00:04:35] Craig: [00:04:35] Joe, you know, I’ve interviewed a lot of people for this podcast now, and a lot of them say, you know, it’s in, it’s in your mind. The mind is really powerful thing. It starts there and all that. But people listening to this and watching this, they’re like, well, you know, I’ve, I’ve heard about all this thinking positive shit and I’ve tried that.
[00:04:50] You know what I mean? But when you get up in the morning and then you have a series of events that just tell you that today is going to be another shit there, and you get on the scales and you’re the same weight, [00:05:00] I mean, that’s really hard. Can you give us something specific that you do that has made a significant change in, um, in your, in your image, in your weight loss and all that?
[00:05:11] Ricci: [00:05:11] Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I think firstly, I think it would be wrong with me to make it look like it’s been easy since I got into teen bootcamp, you know, since that September 28, 2018 that I’ve had an easy ride and I’ve got to here and I’ve lost all this weight. It’s brilliant and life’s changed. There’s all the same.
[00:05:25] Now it’s, I’m healthy because. What is healthy at the end of the day? You know? It’s kinda one of those things isn’t there? What is happy? What is healthy? You know? Um, but it, I still struggle. We all still struggle. Like you will never lose that because that’s how the body is. And that’s how I think people who struggle with their weight will always struggle to.
[00:05:47] Fight that wants to eat.
[00:05:49] Craig: [00:05:49] There’s always going to be a demon there.
[00:05:51] Ricci: [00:05:51] Yeah, 100%
[00:05:52] Craig: [00:05:52] there is like, could you stop the old bag? You know, whatever.
[00:05:56] Ricci: [00:05:56] I don’t think it’s, like you said, everyone goes off tried this bollocks that, you know, I think positive all the [00:06:00] time. I’d really try, but the biggest thing is that I’ve learned when I lose motivation, it’s because I realize later that I’ve stopped doing those things.
[00:06:09] It’s not about doing them for a day. It’s not about doing it for a week. It’s about always doing them. It’s a consistent. Lifelong process and you will have shit days. You will have shit weeks. That’s life. But it’s not about wallowing in it and going where it doesn’t work. I can’t do it. It’s about going, I own this.
[00:06:28] I’ve had a really shit day. I’ve eaten 20,000 calories in a day, and that’s something I’d never haven’t done for a year, but now what do I do? Do I carry on doing that and then go back to where I was a year ago after this amazing sort of transformation I’ve gone through, or do I go, Ryan. I own that choice.
[00:06:44] I enjoy myself. Actually, I don’t really care anymore. Tomorrow’s a new day and then you start again. That’s what it is though. It’s just picking yourself up constantly. But
[00:06:52] Craig: [00:06:52] I mean, it takes some strengths, doesn’t it, to to pick yourself up comes down. I mean, where do you find,
[00:06:57] Ricci: [00:06:57] where do I find strength? It’s, it is [00:07:00] hard and it is for me, it’s always been about my support network.
[00:07:03] I’ve got a great family and friends at home who I’ve always been supportive and always tried to help me with everything. But I think, again, like I said before, when it’s family and friends, it’s different if you almost resent it in a really stupid way.
[00:07:13] Craig: [00:07:13] Oh yeah. I mean, when I’m talking to Paula sometimes, you know, I can say, look, you know, it’s a bit of advice and, and Jill, she’ll fly off the a hundred you know what I mean?
[00:07:20] Sheep alive, dirty, bloody UDL. Do you think? Oh, right. Okay. Yeah. Fair enough. You know, it’s because we’re too close. Sometimes when you’re in the picture, you can’t see the frame and
[00:07:29] Ricci: [00:07:29] yeah, a hundred percent a hundred percent that’s exactly what it is. And I think it’s because I’ve got this different support network now that is purely based around that side of my life and that I’ve learned everything from them that we’re not everything because you never stop learning.
[00:07:41] But I’ve learned a lot from them of how to deal with things. I, you know, through this, through this journey, I’ve then gone on and done the NLP practitioner course and the hypnotherapy course, and that’s, for me, that’s been a massive, that was a massive change for me because. Understanding the workings behind it for me really works.
[00:07:56] Cause I like to know how things work. I’m rubbish at just seeing something [00:08:00] happen. Like magic tricks wind me up beyond belief cause I’m like, I don’t give a shit how you, why you’ve done it and that has happened. I want to know how you did it. So it’s kind of that thing, you know, it’s that, and it’s not, I’m not saying it’s magic, but you know, that is that thing.
[00:08:11] I need to know how it works to understand it, to then put it into practice. So for me, that’s a big part of it is knowing how the background works. If you see what I’m saying. Um, it’s hard. I don’t, I, it’s, it’s, there’s no one one size fits all for this. It’s kind of finding what works for you. Um, for me, I.
[00:08:29] Really formal. I’m using meditation. It helps a lot, especially with my sleep and just my motivation in the mornings and little things, you know, uh, we watch podcast at camp. Um, I can never remember his name. That the Navy seal. Uh, no, the ring the bell guy, you know, um, yeah, no, no, none of the Admiral, who’d, you know, the making that in the morning.
[00:08:51] Yeah, I call him his name is, but yeah, but that’s that thing. And he says, you know, start your day with a win. Make your bed. And whenever I. Do that. I notice my days [00:09:00] better because I’ve done that one thing in the morning. It’s gone completely. The task, cause I was very much a stereotypical big guy when I was before camp, you know, it was in the mornings, I would roll out bed.
[00:09:11] I struggled to put my clothes on, you know, get myself dressed, washed, whatever it is. And if I had worked at the time, you know, I was going to work and I was just half asleep, you know, basically a zombie throughout the day because I hadn’t really got going at any point. I was relying on food and coffee to get me through the day.
[00:09:28] Um, and really had very little motivation for life at all, to be honest. Um, and then you sort of realize these little things actually make a huge difference in the largest, largest scale. It’s kind of the reverse of, we worry about the little things, not the big things. So I’ve, I’ve, I was talking to somebody about, I might have been Georgia, I can’t remember.
[00:09:46] I was talking about too, about Georgia tech probably, but we worry about these tiny little issues in our life that are so insignificant. You know, we worry about money, we worry about. You know what we put in our mouth every second of every day, [00:10:00] which is important, but it’s not the end of the world, you know?
[00:10:02] But we never actually think, you know, there could be something massive going on in your life and you ignore it because it’s much easier to ignore that and deal with the little issues that you don’t care about really, but you think you care about. So the opposite of that is if you’ve fixed the little things, the big things fall into place.
[00:10:18] Um, and I think that for me is that when I’m doing things like that makes a huge difference. So I’ll do the little things, doing five minutes meditation before I go to bed. Making my bed in the morning. She put on top of my laundry. Silly things like that. It makes a huge difference to my whole life.
[00:10:31] Craig: [00:10:31] So you’ve, from our hearing that you’re saying that like having a routine or the old succession initiators, you know what I mean?
[00:10:39] Little things that you do just. Just set off a series of events and you end up having a positive down the back of it.
[00:10:45] Ricci: [00:10:45] Yeah, definitely. I think, yeah, it’s kind of like a sort of, I guess anchoring kind of sort of thing. It’s putting a positive emotion with a, with a, with an action. Um, it’s that kind of idea, I guess.
[00:10:55] Yeah. In routine, I’ve always been a person to fight routine and I’ve always been like, [00:11:00] no, I just go with the flow. It’s fine. I don’t care if something changes, which you have to be a little bit of flexibility is, makes you stronger. But. You need some base routine, otherwise you just end up completely winging it and everything goes shit basically.
[00:11:14] Craig: [00:11:14] Have you got any, any goals now then they give you?
[00:11:17] Ricci: [00:11:17] Yeah, so my, my biggest goal now is I’m working towards skin surgery. That’s my big next, next goal and the journey sort of thing. So I need to look while I don’t need to, but I want to lose. Another sort of six or seven stone, really, before I had the surgery, because the more you lose before it, the better the surgery will come out, and the less likely you have to have another time.
[00:11:34] Um, and then that’s, you know, the biggest goal, biggest barrier Philly for that is money. You know, it’s a huge amount of money. Um, and there’s no support from the NHS or anything for that at all. So I’m looking at trying to raise sort of. Anywhere between 15 and 20,000 to try and get this skin surgery. So I’ll just start doing stuff about that sooner rather than later.
[00:11:52] I think it’s a lot of money to raise. Yeah. Especially when you’re trying not really raising it for something that Pete, a lot of people will see as a genuine cause, if you see what I’m saying. [00:12:00] Um,
[00:12:00] Craig: [00:12:00] and I do worry about that surgery. Are you nervous? Are
[00:12:03] Ricci: [00:12:03] you, I think it’s, it’s, for me, it’s kind of like the worry is not so much there because I know I want it.
[00:12:11] That’s. Even before I even actually got on the journey to losing weight, I knew that when I’d lost the weight, I was going to 100% and have that surgery because I didn’t want to do all of this work, go through all of this kind of pain and, and. Full downs, get ups, put myself through all this, and then still not have a body I’m happy with because I know if I’m sat there, you know, whatever it is, 1213 stone, but I’ve got this big flap of skin over my stomach.
[00:12:36] I’m going to be pissed off and I’m not going to be happy with myself. And this for me, there’s no point against that stage. Um. So, yeah. So I, there’s little worries now as you know, I’ve got little medical conditions, underlying medical stuff, heart and an asthma, all those sort of things, which are all little extra risks that you don’t really want when you go into a surgery that, that sort of size.
[00:12:56] But I’ve met a surgeon ready and spoken to him and he’s pretty confident [00:13:00] and he’s done hundreds of them. And, and, and that took a lot of the pressure off that side of things. He didn’t seem to think it was gonna be an issue at all. Um. Uh, and I think it’s, you know, there’s always possible complications, but no, not really.
[00:13:13] I think this is something I know I want enough that it doesn’t really matter what the complications are.
[00:13:18] Craig: [00:13:18] Yeah. So, um, and is that, so do you think he’s going to be in the UK or are you going abroad? I know some people that doing like this medical tourism out there and go and get the teeth done and hair transplant.
[00:13:27] Ricci: [00:13:27] I just don’t trust it. I just think you see so many horror stories coming from it. And can you imagine it come back and go. An extra stomach cause they’d a half of one. Um, but yeah, no, I think, uh, yeah. And, and to be honest, although the cost difference is probably significant, I’m not really looked into it that much.
[00:13:44] I don’t, what’s the point in putting extra risk on myself just to get it a little bit cheaper when I know for fact that this guy. Is safe, qualified to the level I wanted to be and could do the job.
[00:13:57] Craig: [00:13:57] Someone up there knows
[00:13:58] Ricci: [00:13:58] I’ve been halted. [00:14:00] So
[00:14:01] Craig: [00:14:01] during the, during, throughout the whole program and losing weight and all that, I mean, what things have surprised you like even if it’s yourself, if you’ve surprised yourself or you just learn, you thought, you know, that that just shocks me or whatever.
[00:14:14] Ricci: [00:14:14] Yeah. I see. Always surprised. Uh, who the person that compares that is actually struggling the most. You don’t always see it. So, so we got a new group every week, basically. Um, and with the longterm, as you get to know him pretty well, and those guys, you can kind of read pretty easily, but then you get sort of anything from five newbies to 20 newbies every week.
[00:14:36] And you’ll always think, Oh, they look like they could, you know, they’re, they’re going through something. And then it’s always the one who’s, you’re not suspecting you have a little chat with them. They open up massively to you. And also how open people are at boot camp. That’s what always. It’s always a surprise cause I think they feel safe there.
[00:14:51] And that’s a big part of it. I think that’s a big part of why it works as well is because people do feel safe there. Again, cause everyone’s going through a common sort of thing. But um, that’s always surprised [00:15:00] me how open people are, how hard it is actually to know who’s going through what. And it’s, I think that’s a big part of what we do.
[00:15:05] The world is talking about now with mental health and things like that, is that your friend might say they’re okay, or you know, somebody, you know, might somebody pass in the street every day and you just go, he’ll build up a bit of a rapport with, might say, look fine, but actually if you just stop and talk to them or they find really, um, and that’s a big thing, I think.
[00:15:22] I think people don’t stop and talk enough. You know, it’s, we’ve become a world of living on a phone or passing and not saying a word. And it’s kind of. Just going, how are you doing today? Could be, it could be a massive game changer. Again, that’s another surprise is how much one phrase can change somebody’s life and that you always say, you always say, you know, this could be the week that you say change a person’s life.
[00:15:42] Yeah, and it’s true. Like they could just be that one second where you said that right thing at that right moment in the right place and they’ve changed and that’s it. You know? That’s, I think that’s a huge thing. People don’t understand the power of what they’ve got. When they say things, and again, on the negative of the same, you know
[00:15:57] Craig: [00:15:57] what, I’m just go just to like [00:16:00] talk about food a little bit.
[00:16:01] So is there a food that you’ve completely given up now or that you would have perhaps binged on, are eaten before? And
[00:16:08] Ricci: [00:16:08] so I’ve, I struggle, I struggle to cut things out completely from my diet because I’m very much a person who will just crave it. Constantly until I have it. Um, so there’s no real food group I’ve cut out completely.
[00:16:20] Well, I would actually, that’s not true. Cereal cereal is a massive one. I’m not eating cereal since I’ve come to camp. I don’t think. So what year and a half may have had a bowl at some point, but I used to literally every morning or evening, every night I’ll probably a box cereal and you know, one of those massive hidden sugar things, isn’t it?
[00:16:40] You know, you don’t actually realize how much sugar and crap you’re eating when you eat cereal. Um, you know, and that’s alongside the, you know, three pounds of milk you have with it.
[00:16:49] Craig: [00:16:49] And do you miss it or
[00:16:52] Ricci: [00:16:52] strangely enough, no, there’s those, there’s the odd time when I go. Oh, that’s a, that’s a new one out, I think.
[00:16:57] Oh, I wonder what that tastes like. You know? [00:17:00] And you just think, Oh, that looks really good. So fancy that one, you know? But it’s always the chocolate covered in chocolate with a bit of chocolate on the side ones. And you think, what’s the point? I know it’s going to taste good. Tastes like fucking chocolate.
[00:17:11] Craig: [00:17:11] So, and if you, is there a food that you eat now that you didn’t before?
[00:17:16] Ricci: [00:17:16] Yeah, loads all this. Never used to olives.
[00:17:20] Craig: [00:17:20] When you, we all use now freely there.
[00:17:22] Ricci: [00:17:22] No problem at all. Funnily enough, that was one, that was one of the ones I did with the NLP calls. So you know, like to dislike. So we did a reverse or me for that and I couldn’t have y’all as a tool.
[00:17:30] I used to just not, not me at all. And then we did the little NLP practice on it and yeah, phone. Now,
[00:17:37] Craig: [00:17:37] just for people that are listening to don’t know, don’t know, can
[00:17:40] Ricci: [00:17:40] you like to dislike is like a, is a thing where you take. Um, something that you, baby, you constantly crave. So it could be like somebody’s absolutely addicted to Mars bars.
[00:17:50] They eat them every day and then you take something they can’t think about without gagging, basically horrible stuff, you know, baby nappies and stuff like that. [00:18:00] And you get them to conjure an image of both things in their mind and then you take what’s different about them. So one might be in color on my black and white, uh, one might be, um, close up, mum will be far back, those sort of things.
[00:18:11] And then you. Use them in a, I think it’s basically like a hypnosis kind of practice, and you swap over the image, um, categories. So like you turn them to the opposites. Uh, and then. The idea is what it’s, if it works properly or they’ve gone through it in their mind properly, then they will not be able to think about the thing they were addicted to.
[00:18:30] Or they were, you know, mad about without gagging because they’ll be thinking about the actual, the other thing we’ll be sort of stuck in their mind. You know what I’m saying?
[00:18:37] Craig: [00:18:37] I just did it. I just did the real note in the Arctic and a friend of mine, um, he brought peanut M and M’s as a snack to eat. And he said, you know, peanut memes are brilliant.
[00:18:45] Don’t freeze. You can eat them on the road. Nova, Buddha. He said, I mean, not Brittany peanut M and, M’s. And I said, I haven’t touched pier at M. and M’s. Since I did the like to dislike a couple of years ago, and in fact, I’ve had one on new year’s Eve. Me and my little son Mattie was [00:19:00] sat watching Itali.
[00:19:00] Everyone else was either in bed or out and easy. He was eating P and M and, M’s. And he said, John, a couple of these dad. And I was like, yeah, why not? It’s new year’s Eve. Put it in my mouth. And it was like, can’t do it. And I cut it out. I’ve not had one since. And um, and I was kind of explaining to my ma the queer knew I spent a lot of time running with.
[00:19:18] brought these peanut M and. M’s. I was best explaining what was going on and if it wasn’t clear what Ricky was saying, that is like whenever we think of a food, we create a certain amount of. Uh, programs or feelings or thoughts or images or movies that play in our mind, all these kinds of different things.
[00:19:36] And, and you do the same when you’ve got food that you dislike, which is why, you know, you can feel that you’re going to get, and then the technique, what it does is it maps the two things across. And then I was telling, talking to Leanna, and it just, just happened to mention, or if you didn’t like fish, you could map, you know, and it makes you gag.
[00:19:52] You can map it all to pet and an EMS, yada, yada. And, um. And it turns out he hairs like his thing makes him [00:20:00] sick. His fish with eyes. You know what I mean? The tissue dies just like, Whoa. No, makes me gag. Anyway, a day into the race and he’s like, you bastard. What’s up? What’s up? Zach cannot touch McLean at M.
[00:20:12] and. M, you know?
[00:20:14] Ricci: [00:20:14] So that shows how powerful your own brain is, doesn’t it?
[00:20:17] Craig: [00:20:17] Yeah. I mean, and this is what you were talking about, I suppose we’d like programs, strategies, you know, things that go on in your brain that you just, we, we, we leave it unchecked until we know. How it works. Yeah. You know, like you were saying, you know, I need to know it works well.
[00:20:33] Your brain is this machine that is constantly comparing and, and you know, and all this kind of stuff, and we just let it run. You know, when we let you know, a lot of people out there, w w they would think that they’re not in charge of that dog.
[00:20:48] Ricci: [00:20:48] You know? I’ll go. That was one. Sorry. I should have mentioned that when you said that.
[00:20:51] The stuff that has really impacted me, Raz. Yeah. Blew my mind, and I always talk about it. I think I talked about the podcast before, but Raz completely blew my mind. So if people don’t know, [00:21:00] that is reticular activating system. And so that’s the part of your brain that literally is like the filing system in your brain and it, everything you see, everything that you process through your brain goes there and it files it away and where it should be, and it goes, you know, stuff that’s important stuff that’s not on his.
[00:21:14] I always got the numbers, but it’s like over a million things a second, you see, and your Roslyn cuts it down to like 200 or whatever. It might be. Less than
[00:21:21] Craig: [00:21:21] that. It’s definitely crazy.
[00:21:24] Ricci: [00:21:24] Um. And so when you really get your head around that, uh, it’s things like the car thing, they always, that’s a good example I always use is when you buy a Honda, let’s say, you’ll then suddenly notice, Oh, everyone’s got Honda.
[00:21:37] That’s not, it’s not, and nobody’s bought Honda’s because you’ve bought a Honda is because you’ve started noticing them. Cause you’ve got one, and that’s how you, Raz works. The more you see something, the more your mind will see, it will pick it up. Um, so, but you’re in control of that. So the more you’re positive to yourself, the more your mind to be like, Oh, that’s a good thing.
[00:21:52] And the more we’ll let you do it, and the more it will have a good reaction to it and vice versa, of course. So if you’re more negative than you’re more negative becomes. So that’s why [00:22:00] we get stuck in these little pits of negative spirals. And we talk about that a lot. Uh, and you know, in these chains of pain that Paula talks about, you know, we pass on the pain or we, we add to the pain of people that they could be going through something and we just add to it instead of going, well, let’s break that cycle.
[00:22:15] Let’s break the chain. And then. You’ve got a chance again, you know, it’s, it’s, and it ma basically you’re in charge of everything. Like nothing that happens to your life isn’t in your control. Um, which I’ve always said is bittersweet because you kind of look back here what you’re saying, all the shit that’s happened to me up till this point, it’s my fault.
[00:22:31] Well, yeah, yeah. You made the choices to do those things or to feel that way, or you programmed your brain to think that way, but. That means that from this day onwards, you can have pride everybody again, to be what you want it to be, which is, I mean, that’s incredible,
[00:22:46] Craig: [00:22:46] right? I’m going. Yeah. I mean, so I mean, but there are some events that you just cannot control.
[00:22:51] Ricci: [00:22:51] course. Yeah. You can’t control people dying. Can’t control, you know, disease, things like that. You know, nothing’s, not everything’s with our control, but the choices [00:23:00] you make. So the
[00:23:01] Craig: [00:23:01] reaction to it. Yeah. Yeah. We did a great interview with Natalie, the Tourette’s teacher, you know, and that was all about people’s response, you know what I mean?
[00:23:11] And their ability to respond us, you know, response ability. It’s your responsibility to respond. You know what I mean? Cause you’ve got the ability to respond in whatever way you want. Now, quite often we just respond in a way that it’s like, you know, we’ve had a shit day. Responding to where it’s like, I need something to make me feel better.
[00:23:27] I’ll grab some food. It doesn’t have to be like that. You know? You can take charge of it. Yeah. So, um, what, what about, um, what about friendships in that, that you’ve met at camp? I mean, you, you’ve, your back.
[00:23:42] Ricci: [00:23:42] Thousands got to be thousands now. 18 months.
[00:23:47] Craig: [00:23:47] It’s gotta be,
[00:23:47] Ricci: [00:23:47] it’s gotta be the thousands of recommended.
[00:23:49] I’ve got some lifelong friends from Campbell. It’s incredible. You know people at Georgia whose cut waste, we started the month, I started month after Georgia. Um, we basically built the same journey together. You [00:24:00] know, we, we both did the same basic 12 weeks before Christmas, 2018. Both went away for Christmas, came back like a maximum ambassador.
[00:24:07] She came back as a camper for another six weeks. Then she became an ambassador and I became staff, and then she became staff. So we kind of, we’ve, we’ve called each other. Yeah, pretty much. What traits
[00:24:16] Craig: [00:24:16] do you see in George that you, that you admire? You like
[00:24:19] Ricci: [00:24:19] Georgia. Yeah. Cause that’s what she expect me to say.
[00:24:24] But no loads. She’s, she’s, uh, incredibly strong, like, uh, she doesn’t give herself anywhere near enough credit. Um, but she’s super strong. She, she’s gone through so much shit in her life. And if you watch, you know, the Miriam documentary, you’ll get, you’ll get a little taste of what she’s gone through, but not even close to the reality of, of, of where she is and where she’s been.
[00:24:44] Uh, and she’s, she’s. Considering, like you say, she came to camp and she did not say a word to anyone for three weeks, and I mean, not a word, and now she’s the only one who could bloody here on camp. You know, she’s the loudest person on come. That’s an incredible change. And that’s just through losing [00:25:00] a little bit white.
[00:25:01] Gained some confidence, changing her own mindset. And she’s now this new person in my opinion. And me and her have been mirrored each other in some negative ways as well. We both been through some struggles. We both struggle with the way, again, more recently, we’re both trying to get back into it. We are both getting back it and trying.
[00:25:18] We are getting back into it. Um, and. Again, she, you know, she’s very, she wants people to break into per self down, and she needs that little kick every now and again to go fucking stop it because actually you are incredible and you’ve done incredible stuff. So just remember that. Don’t remember, don’t think about the right now when you go, I’m not fit as I used to be.
[00:25:36] I’m not where I want to be right now. Right this second. But you’re getting there. You’re doing something about it. And that’s the important part.
[00:25:42] Craig: [00:25:42] Okay. So that’s, that’s Georgia. Anybody else?
[00:25:45] Ricci: [00:25:45] God, there’s a lot. I don’t wanna upset anyone. Obviously Nicola as well. Um. She’s all went on a similar journey to us, but she was a step ahead the whole time cause she was already stopped when I came.
[00:25:55] Then she went away for a few months, came back and staff again. Um, but yeah, we’ve become very close, very good [00:26:00] friends with, she’s very positive. She’s very, she’s, she’s really great with the coaching stuff. She’s really intelligent. She’s on it. She’s got that. The people that do the concrete program will know her really well cause she runs, it, runs all the group sessions and the one to ones, um, with Paula and she’s, she’s on it.
[00:26:16] She knows what she’s doing and unlike everyone struggle. But she. She has this amazing way of being positive, even when her life is absolutely going through the ringer. She’ll still have some ridiculous amount of energy. She takes too far sometimes and she knows it, but she, that’s brilliant for her. I mean, there’s many.
[00:26:32] Steph, Steph is coming back in a few weeks. Um, she was, she was there for my, my time as concretely as well. Uh, I’m seeing her or she’s coming back, so I’m seeing her then. Um, she’s brilliant. She’s done amazingly. I mean, she wasn’t huge when she came, but she did the Kong food. More for mindset and more for confidence and getting back into the place where she was happy with herself, which is what is therefore, as well as, it’s not just about weight loss.
[00:26:54] I think people don’t, don’t quite get that. Sometimes
[00:26:56] Craig: [00:26:56] just when we target that you’ve used on a bat, like the group sessions, [00:27:00] and I don’t know, you’ve never had a problem with like talk, you need a lot about Tim before you came to camp and all that kind of stuff. But I mean. What was it like to be in those sessions and then kind of been asked or encouraged to, to lay off some of your darkest secrets on the table, are your greatest fears, you know, how did you feel when you was going through that and now, and how essential was it?
[00:27:21] Because, Oh,
[00:27:22] Ricci: [00:27:22] you know, it was a weird one for me. So like I said, I was never a shy person before camp. I was never sort of, I was always very much the. You know, the clown and the S, the loud one, like a lot of bigger people can be, but some of them are much quieter. But when I came as wasn’t a big sharer about personal stuff, it wasn’t big.
[00:27:37] Shared about was really feeling. Um, and in the group sessions within a few sessions, and I had Portland Stu when I was, when I was doing hug food within two or three sessions, I just felt instantly comfortable within whoever it was walked through the door. I knew that I could say what I needed to say and it will stay in that room for one, which is important.
[00:27:55] And for two it didn’t matter because everyone’s kind of going through something and it doesn’t really, nobody’s [00:28:00] it, it’s just, it is integral. It’s so into it. For me, it didn’t take real life. I think people come and they garden. I don’t feel like Sharon stay and you go, that’s fine. If you’re not feeling like it today, that’s fine, but it’d be really good if at some point you can share something.
[00:28:12] It doesn’t have to be huge. Doesn’t have to be the main thing that you’re really worried about right now. It doesn’t have to be a huge trauma for the past, but just share a little bit, cause it’s, it’s, it’s that whole thing of. Yeah, no problem. problem shared is a problem. Half you know this, and that’s true.
[00:28:26] You know, once you, once it’s out, it’s out and it’s no longer really a problem. It’s kind of, it’s not something you can deal with.
[00:28:32] Craig: [00:28:32] Have you met, have you met anybody that’s come to camp? Sort of given it there? There is, there is nothing wrong with my life. There is nothing wrong. We may, I’m on
[00:28:40] Ricci: [00:28:40] top of the world, dozens
[00:28:42] Craig: [00:28:42] and
[00:28:43] Ricci: [00:28:43] dozens
[00:28:44] Craig: [00:28:44] and shit.
[00:28:48] How does it kind of pan out? Do they, do they realize
[00:28:51] Ricci: [00:28:51] it takes what? What generally happens? Not always, but what generally happens is that person will sit with that for weeks and they’ll, there’ll be adamant. [00:29:00] There’s nothing wrong. They’re just
[00:29:01] Craig: [00:29:01] pride. A seven first thing probably is a little bit honesty,
[00:29:04] Ricci: [00:29:04] a little bit pride.
[00:29:05] Some people, some people do lie to themselves about it, and for sure people really struggled to be honest with themselves because it’s that thing. If you, once you’ve missed this, it’s out there and it, it’s, everyone kinda knows or you know, and you’ve admitted it. It’s true. It’s the same with, I think with alcoholism, with drugs, all these things, until you admit there’s a problem, you can’t really deal with it.
[00:29:23] Um, and that’s what people, I think people don’t want to admit it sometimes because then it’s real. If you know what I’m saying? They’ve come to come with the idea that I just need to do the exercise. I need to eat the right food, and I’ll be thin again and I’ll be fine. And we’ve had a lot of people like that, but the ones that really become successful who come with that attitude are the ones that really have a massive breakthrough at some point.
[00:29:41] And by breakthrough, I know a lot of people think, Oh, that’s, that’s amazing. But it usually, that’s a lot of tears, a lot of, a lot of one-to-one coaching moments. A lot of time. Well really reflect a lot of difficult questions, a lot of really pushing them emotionally, mentally, uh, to the point where they do [00:30:00] have to hit rock bottom because they have to really realize that it’s their fault.
[00:30:05] Like, and that sounds so harsh, but it is, you know, there’s no point blaming anyone else or anything else because nothing that anyone else has done to you in your life has made you fat.
[00:30:14] Craig: [00:30:14] And the inverse is that if you, if you don’t take responsibility. You will never break free of it. Absolutely. Because if it’s always someone else’s fault, you’re always waiting for someone else to fix it.
[00:30:25] Ricci: [00:30:25] Yeah. I’ll just put in, which was, I was definitely in that position for a long time.
[00:30:29] Craig: [00:30:29] That surprises me like
[00:30:30] Ricci: [00:30:30] I think before I came to camp, I’d come to that point where I think the reason I came to camp was because I’d had that moment already and I’d have sort of come to that realization where I was like.
[00:30:38] There was a lot of shit going on in my life, but actually I was just eating myself into oblivion. And that was because I, and I think like Jordan said in the documentary, if you watch it, you should watch it. Um, it’s a type of self harm. The people that really, really do have binge eating issues and, and overeating issues is self-harm, um, [00:31:00] as, because you just, it.
[00:31:03] Whereas I suppose with cutting and other ways of homies, it’s about feeling something. This is about suppressing the feelings for me. That was what it was for me. It was about, I mean, going to eat so much that that will satisfy something and it never does. You know, the reality is it never does because food won’t satisfy an emotional or mental or psychological need.
[00:31:23] But, um. Yeah. I don’t, I don’t. I was, yeah, I was very much in a place for a few years where it was like, Oh no, it’s this person’s fault or it’s because of that job. It’s because I, you know, I’d go to the gym three times a week and play football once a week. I’m eating the right things, but I wasn’t eating the right things.
[00:31:38] I was just lying to myself and everyone around me. Cause that’s easier than, you know,
[00:31:42] Craig: [00:31:42] you lying to yourself or did you honestly believe what you is eating is healthy food?
[00:31:50] Ricci: [00:31:50] I think
[00:31:50] Craig: [00:31:50] I had a combination of, it’s
[00:31:51] Ricci: [00:31:51] a bit of a combination because I was, my meals were always healthy cause my mom’s brilliant cook.
[00:31:55] She would always cook the right things to make. She was always, you know, she struggled as well. She’s been coming for a week. [00:32:00] She absolutely killed it and smashed it. Yeah. It really smashed it. And I was thinking we didn’t have to have the full stop by like let’s everybody be careful. Nobody push her too hard.
[00:32:08] And she did. She went out, made me look like an idiot because she did the most of them out there. I lost 10 pounds and
[00:32:13] Craig: [00:32:13] she had enough breasts. I hope my son’s okay.
[00:32:16] Ricci: [00:32:16] Exactly. Yeah. Where’s my baby? Yeah. Brilliant. Yeah. But it’s just, it’s crazy stuff like that, but, um, yeah, so I was always eating the right meals.
[00:32:26] It was all the bits between and after the meals, you know, which is a big problem. A lot of people, but then also the binges, you know? I think, yeah.
[00:32:33] Craig: [00:32:33] But then the little bits between, we don’t often account for those Dewey, you know, and I, and I’ve met people who have coached people and have said, you know, the meals are great and what’s not being said is between meals.
[00:32:45] There. Snacking. Like crazy. Absolutely. Yeah. No meals within meals really, but because it’s on the hoof, on the move, not really accounting
[00:32:52] Ricci: [00:32:52] for the two packs of biscuits with a cup of tea, that’s never counted as it, you know, it doesn’t count cause I’m not sat down having it, which is, again, another thing we do, we do at a campus is the mindful [00:33:00] eating.
[00:33:00] You know, you sit down and you eat when you eat and when you’re not eating, whatever, you know. But if you’re eating, you’re sat down, you’re
[00:33:07] Craig: [00:33:07] chatting, use where they’re at about you. But anyway, let’s crack on the Lou. Was there ever a real like camp where you’re like. This fricking grinds my gears. Uh, a few, yeah, the early bodies,
[00:33:20] Ricci: [00:33:20] the early morning, early mornings.
[00:33:23] So obviously you guys won’t know that. So I haven’t done a full training week as a camper for probably six months now. And so this is my first one back. I’m just finished. This is Thursday now, and at that first Saturday I was so hard to get out of bed. I mean, all my work weeks, I’m getting up early.
[00:33:39] Anyway, I’m up at six anyway, but.
[00:33:41] Craig: [00:33:41] When am I going out
[00:33:43] Ricci: [00:33:43] getting up and going out in the cold and going down to the wishbone and run up and down that Hill? I just, I remember it all flooded back to me in that moment of where the alarm went off and I was like, Oh shit, I’m doing it again. I did this for nine months.
[00:33:57] Why am I doing this? Because I want to and I need to. But [00:34:00] um, yeah, that, that was always the early mornings always killed me. Parade, especially when it’s something you’re doing inside. I always hated that, but understood the reasons. What else is there? There’s a few, but you know, silly little things, but things that are important, really, it wouldn’t work with one of the rules, you know, one of the rules comes away, then something else will fall apart.
[00:34:22] Craig: [00:34:22] so this, this, this, this time, so you did nine months, you had a six month gap where you kind of do your own training and all that kind of stuff. Now you’ve just finished your another week, almost like the first week
[00:34:33] Ricci: [00:34:33] again as we again. Yeah.
[00:34:35] Craig: [00:34:35] What did you see this time round? Either in the program, the training, or in other people or the bootcampers that you perhaps wouldn’t have noticed at the start.
[00:34:45] Ricci: [00:34:45] It’s a lot easier now to spot when somebody needs that extra push and when something needs to be left alone. When I was a camper, I was always one, you know, give it a lot of encouragement. I was always there giving every single person encouragement cause that’s just personal. I like to be, and when I’m training, that’s what I [00:35:00] do.
[00:35:00] Um, but then actually now I’ve gone through the process. I’ve. Tom, the coaching staff, I’ve got the more unsaved people, I think, um, this, you can see when people actually, they really don’t want to be pushed or not. They are, they don’t need to be. And actually when you push them, they then go home. Fuck off.
[00:35:19] You know, like, I don’t need that right now. And the people that are sort of given themselves a bit of an easy ride and you go, right, I’ll stick, I’ll stick on them for a minute. And that’s much easier to read now, especially having been on the other side, you know, you get to know the trainers a bit better.
[00:35:30] He gets towards the trainers and you understand how they see it and how they think and how they developed the sessions, all those sorts of things. Um, which is super interesting. And then. I think why we do a lot of stuff that we do obviously is a lot easier to see now. You know? Cause when you’re on the campus side, you go, wow, why is this happening now?
[00:35:48] Why I’ve got to do this? Well, I’ve got to do that. Or, you know, you know, I feel like I’m a school again. But actually all of it’s super technical. Like there’s nothing we do a camp that isn’t important. It isn’t for a reason. You know, we don’t do [00:36:00] anything for the sake of it. Um, and once you get scripts that it’s like brilliant and actually, do you know what it’s going to sound stupid becomes one of the easiest things you can do because all of your choices taken away.
[00:36:12] And I mean, if you could say, go and say to a single mum who’s got three kids, you can go somewhere for a week and you don’t have to think about anything. But waking up and putting your clothes on, how many of them I go, I mean, I don’t care what it is, I’ll do it, you know? And that, that’s what it is coming, you know, is you wake up, you put your clothes on.
[00:36:30] And you just do what you’re told for a day and you get fed, you get a nice bed to go back to, you get a shower, you get everything you need, and that’s it. And then you sleep, and then you get up and do it the next day. You know? That’s, it’s that simple. And that’s what I think a lot people go, Oh yeah, but I’ve got to that session and we don’t do that session.
[00:36:46] We got it. Don’t think about it. Just go up, do it, and do what you’re told and stick to the program. It’s that easy.
[00:36:52] Craig: [00:36:52] So you had, um, great, great insight. You, you talked about your meditation, you’re doing that. I mean, do you have a [00:37:00] little, do you have a little meditation routine? Is it the same every time? I mean, how do you kind of, yeah, I still do that.
[00:37:05] Ricci: [00:37:05] I’m still new to it in a way. Like I know I’ve been doing it for a while, but I fall in love with it quite a lot. And that’s what I think my routine falls apart a bit. But, so for me it’s tends to be. Well, my feeling today, what do I think I want to work on? What, where, where on what my thinking about a lot is it, is it about food?
[00:37:19] Is it about body image? Is it about just. Peaceful nurse, you know, mental, mental, calm, that sort of thing. And then I’ll just Google, you know, YouTube, what, you know, five, 10 minute mental calmness, meditation, guided bang, put it on, put the headphones in, and then to fare. I’m usually asleep before then, but you know, I’ll just do that.
[00:37:39] And then I’m just, uh, you know, it’s changing your state. That’s all it is. It’s just super simple. You’d have to do anything again. You just do it. You just put headphones on and that’s it. You’re way
[00:37:47] Craig: [00:37:47] deep. The change in the state thing, I mean, you just through hours, like a comic. You know, dive into that.
[00:37:54] Ricci: [00:37:54] I mean, change of state is, is, uh, I think it’s liberal thought.
[00:37:57] What we’re saying about responsibility. It’s kind of, so [00:38:00] you can have something happen. You can. Then make a choice of how you feel about it. And sometimes you don’t choose because it’s split Cision somebody does something and it’s something that always pisses you off. And let’s say you’re just off here.
[00:38:12] You got a habit. Yeah, exactly. It’s a pro behavior, whatever it is, and it just sets you off and you’re, you’re pissed. That’s it. You’re done. I’m in a shit place. I really don’t want to think about it. Don’t talk to that person. I don’t wanna talk to anyone. I’m going to call yourself my room. So then that will point that point.
[00:38:26] What do you do. So changing your state is about going, right. I’ve, I’m a now aware of this feeling is it’s about the self-awareness or going, right, I’m in this position where I am in that shit place and I’ve got to do, I kind of fall into my old patterns of either eating or whatever it is that you do to cope with that feeling or can change.
[00:38:43] Mistake. I can take those five minutes to meditate. I can go to a different room, I can move my room about, and Paul loves to change her office about when she wants to, a little change of state. She’ll move the stuff and furniture and stuff like that. Things like that. Simple. Make your bed. Anything is just
[00:38:55] Craig: [00:38:55] to have a shower.
[00:38:55] If I have a shower. Oh, I mean, I’ve even gone back to bed. Five minutes, [00:39:00] none of that meditation got out of bed again until, you know, start again. Start again.
[00:39:04] Ricci: [00:39:04] 100% it’s done. That’s it. And then you’ll, you’ll just, your mind will switch it just, and the more you do that, the more that you go on in that ship place and trade the mistake, the less times you’ll find yourself in that ship place.
[00:39:13] That’s, that’s the whole idea of it, you know?
[00:39:15] Craig: [00:39:15] Do you think in the past you would, you have manufactured a shitty stair as an excuse to go on
[00:39:21] Ricci: [00:39:21] 800%. I used to get hundred percent so I was, when I was little, when I was, you know, I’m talking sort of seven, six, seven. I was, I had, I would say, genuine anger issues.
[00:39:34] I would, I would fly off the handle pretty much anything and I was a little shy. Being told off, not being told, being told I couldn’t do stuff I wanted to do. Food was always one like, no, you can’t have that. Wow. Fuck you. I get upset at swear when I was like, it’s, but you know, I was the little shit who would go to my room, write my letter telling me I had told her how much I hate it cause you know, and then half an hour like to tell her how much I love her cause I want to escape.
[00:39:59] But yeah, no, I was [00:40:00] a, I was a little shit and I, and, and I D I dealt with that. In mine. I don’t remember. I think I did go see a therapist time and little things and worked on that. And then it became a thing of, I would hold stuff in for so long that then a little thing would send me off the handle. Um, prime is, I’m, me and my dad never really saw eye to eye on a lot of stuff and don’t talk now, but we never saw eye to eye on a lot of things.
[00:40:24] And we’d have these arguments about pretty much nothing. You know, it’d be something like I was working, uh, and, uh. He made some comment about food and about why he ate and it, and it was, do you know what? It was one of those things where he was bright and I fucking hate to missing that. I really do hate everything that he was writing.
[00:40:40] What you said there was something about I always eat too much of something basic. Yeah, and that was it. I was like, do you know what? Fuck you, I don’t need this shit. Give him a load of shit. And then got my car and drove straight to McDonald’s, but actually what have I done there? He said something that I don’t want to hear.
[00:40:55] And so I’ve gone, right. I’ll go do exactly what you said. I don’t, I do [00:41:00] prove you wrong or not, you know? Yeah. Like, brilliant. Go and spend 20 quid at McDonald’s. I don’t have, you know, it’s that simple. Yeah. Little silly little comments and people, certain people would just make me spit off. I mean, I think everyone has that.
[00:41:13] There’s somebody who could be right every time, but you just, that person, he’s like, I don’t want to fucking hear it from you. Yeah.
[00:41:19] Craig: [00:41:19] What do you have a mantra or a quote or a couple of quotes that you. You use a lot or that you’ve
[00:41:26] Ricci: [00:41:26] picked up, Georgia will hate me for this. So there’s one that came up with and conquer food that I, it’s for me, at the time it was a, it was, we were doing the Bible club Bible cards, um, and it’s, you pick an image and then you just.
[00:41:40] I went was something from that image that you get drawn to him an image, and then you think of why it drew you in. And I just picked a picture of the moon and for me it was a, I was in a place where I was like, I, I want to show off what I’ve got. I want my talents to be seen. I want to. Be the person I always dreamed about being and always think, I’m never going to be that person, and I’m fed up with [00:42:00] that sort of feeling.
[00:42:00] Yeah. So Georgia is going to probably hate me for this because she always goes,
[00:42:06] Craig: [00:42:06] is that literally
[00:42:06] Ricci: [00:42:06] what she does? Literally? Yeah, pretty much backlog when it’s her, where they one of the tapes, but I just sort of thought it’s easy to be like the sun and shine when everything around is bright, but I want to be a lot of the moon and shine even when everything around me is dark.
[00:42:23] That was it. Just simple thing like that. And
[00:42:26] Craig: [00:42:26] it’s pretty profound. It’s not say yes, it’s simple, but yes. Yeah, yeah. It’s pretty profound.
[00:42:32] Ricci: [00:42:32] Yeah. So, and that was just what I came up with a conference session and Paula loved it, obviously, and, and, and Georgia was like, Oh, fuck, I don’t want to, but should I be flat with pressure?
[00:42:42] So, um, but yeah, so that’s, that one was always start with me and I, and I genuinely believe, I think if you can learn to be. The person you want to be, even when the shit hits the fan, then you’ve won. You know you’ve, you’ve, you’ve done it. You’re like, that’s where you are. And I think people really struggle with it and I still struggle that everyone struggles with that.
[00:42:59] It’s not [00:43:00] easy when evidence telling you not to be happy, to be happy or to be. Kind or those
[00:43:06] Craig: [00:43:06] things we thrive on pity and hundred percent and Liddy drama as well though. I mean, you know, you’ve got to look at, you know, what’s going on with her, the coronavirus and all that kind of stuff, you know? And yeah, the amount of people that were like caught in a proper little drama world.
[00:43:19] It’s a,
[00:43:20] Ricci: [00:43:20] I mean, you’ve got medical professional saying everyone needs to calm the fuck down. It’s really not what everyone, the media are making out to be. But that’s a perfect example. This world thrives on drama and you know, and jeopardy and those things. And. But Wally, why do we let them do it? You know?
[00:43:36] And we becoming, unfortunately, you know, don’t want to get too political at all, but the UK is in danger of becoming like America with this whole, you know, cycle of fake news and, and, and politically. Paid for news that we believe, because nobody tells us this paid for by the blood politicians, you know, and I think we want to be really careful.
[00:43:57] Um, but yeah, that’s the whole, so I think,
[00:44:00] [00:43:59] Craig: [00:43:59] what was the, have you got popular court?
[00:44:04] Ricci: [00:44:04] Yeah. I’m trying to think. I mean, it’s, it’s, there’s a lot, you know, the trainers will have their special ones, you know, that you let them register special one. You know, if you cut corners here, you will cut corners in life, you know?
[00:44:14] And I love that one’s a good one. Um. You know, just, just simple stuff like you can do it, you know, you smashed it. Just, just positive little, you know, and, and taking the little wins and going, I did that. Yeah. Brilliant. It’s, it’s, it’s, uh, I think there’s so many big, I always say this. I think that’s one of the biggest things.
[00:44:34] I say that about a lot of stuff, but one of the biggest things is self-awareness. It’s, it’s that, it’s that taking time to be go, I’ve done that. And that was me like. No, there’s nothing wrong with going is bringing yourself up. People have become so scared of going, look what I’ve done. Because they were all right.
[00:44:50] Yeah, show off. No, I did fucking do it. Yeah. It’s feel jealous
[00:44:54] Craig: [00:44:54] catching you, catching yourself being good as well. Cause they’re very, very good at catching, catching ourselves, being bad and [00:45:00] you know what I mean? And beating ourselves up. But the old Billy guilt guilt thing. But um, yeah. Catch self been been good.
[00:45:06] Let’s say that. Um, we, we fast forward 50 years. Yeah. And, um, you know, you’re on, you’re on your last legs and your little grandson comes in and he’s overwhelmed. Hmm. Um, what would be your advice to him? What would you, what would you say
[00:45:26] Ricci: [00:45:26] that’s a big one in it? Um,
[00:45:33] well, the big things was, what would I say to them? What would I say to him?
[00:45:37] Craig: [00:45:37] Can’t believe we’ve got speechless.
[00:45:38] Ricci: [00:45:38] I know. Yeah, I know. You’ve got me. I think try to keep it shorter, but, you know, love yourself. Nobody can tell you who to be, but you. Um, and just life is a lot easier when you’re healthy. [00:46:00] Life is better.
[00:46:01] I am mentally. 300,000 times better when I’m healthy, when I’m eating right, when I’m exercising than when I’m not. And I, it’s so obvious to people around me and to myself. You know, when I have my little loaves of where I’ll go back to sort of old habits and I’ll end up eating something I shouldn’t be eating and that or not, I shouldn’t be eating, eat some I didn’t want to eat really.
[00:46:24] But. I felt like I did deals just suppressing an emotion with it, whoever it was, and I’m not training and I’m being lazy. I feel like shit. And I start thinking much more negatively. I start seeing everything much more negatively. I blame everything else for it. And then until I catch myself, it’s really hard to not think that way, you know?
[00:46:42] So what would I say to him. Roll with the punches. It’s is, there’s a lot of things that people throw at you. People give you shit, people take the pests, whatever it is. I. I was never one to be hugely affected by bullying [00:47:00] or people looking or people saying stuff. I was always quite lucky in that I was thick skinned and neck skin, and I’d go, that’s their own issue.
[00:47:09] That’s not mine. That’s not that. That’s nothing to do with me, what they’ve just said or what they’ve just done nothing to do with me really. It’s actually their own shit that they’re dealing with. And I think that’s me being sometimes too kind and too forgiving. But um, yeah. And then you’d get my, I get my friends around me going.
[00:47:24] Oh, that Blake’s looking at you. I’m like, is he, that’s good for him. He can stay where he likes. You know, I don’t care. I’m not, and I’m also not the person to go take a picture last longer. I’m not that guy either. I’m, I’m just supposed to go, here’s what it is. I don’t care. Why bother myself with that little petty shit.
[00:47:38] You know, that guy’s probably got his own problems in life, but the is going on. I don’t need to bother him with my own shit. And then he can look at me when he likes, you know? And at the end of the day, I was fat. I was really, really fucking fat. And I, if I’d seen me in the street, I probably would’ve stared.
[00:47:50] So can I blame somebody for that? You know? I mean, people that make comments, again, it’s that age old thing that your mom tells you and your teachers tell you a [00:48:00] bully will only be bullying you because they’ve got their own problems, you know, ignore them. It’s true. It’s 100% true. Everybody I’ve spoken to who has been that person in the past and being a bully and being a horrible person has said things they wish they hadn’t said.
[00:48:13] You speak to them 10 years later and they’ll. Nine times out of 10 regret it and they’ll go, I said those things because I was dealing with my own shit and I was trying to take out somebody else. That’s, that’s the truth of it. And it is true. So if somebody says something wrong to you, just go send some love to him.
[00:48:28] You know? That’s the truth. That’s a very Pooler way of thinking about things. And that’s the right way to thinks about things. You know, we did a, she’s Chris in the last week with her with the kindness and love meditation, and it was just, there was a moment where she asked us to think somebody we really.
[00:48:43] Don’t like, uh, but just to send them to send them some love and, and it takes some time and it takes a minute to really get fair, but yeah, why not? I’ve got, I’ll put no ill harm. Oh, will 12th anyone in the world, they’ve got their own problems. They’ve got their own way of thinking. That’s their [00:49:00] problem.
[00:49:00] But why isn’t anything beloved? Cause that’s all that’s gonna that’s all I want to get out.
[00:49:04] Craig: [00:49:04] One of those things and we’ll kind of wrap up. Yeah, I mean it, but, um, it’s one of the things anyway, ultimately. All we’re doing is carrying around baggage. Yep. You know, on the back of someone else’s words, actions, whatever.
[00:49:17] You know what I mean? And ultimately just harming ourselves over and over again. Hitting ourselves with the stick. You know, put the fucking steak down, you know what I mean? Let it go.
[00:49:26] Ricci: [00:49:26] Yeah. Let’s take, you know, take a, take a leaf out. Some of the people in the world’s books, you know, Gandy Carlick figure, you know, there’s a reason they looked up to them.
[00:49:34] They thought about what the time is because they had some. It’s a pretty good ways of looking at life and they lived a pretty happy life with nothing, so.
[00:49:41] Craig: [00:49:41] Right. Rick, we’re going to wrap up. Let’s go. It’s been a great, great little chat. Yeah, we’ll definitely do more and we’ll definitely, I’m dragging some of your, some of your mockers, some of your mates and have a little bit of the conversation we’ll have.
[00:49:52] Yeah. Um, anything that I should have asked you that you expected me to ask?
[00:49:56] Ricci: [00:49:56] Oh, that’s a tough one. [00:50:00] Um, no, I don’t think so. I think we’ve covered a lot. I’ve waffled on a lot and I don’t like to waffle, so, um, no, I think we’ve, we’ve gone through a lot and I’m sure there’ll be other stuff that we’ll come up with in other podcasts, so we’ll
[00:50:10] Craig: [00:50:10] do with them.
[00:50:10] Okay. So finally then, just some words of encouragement for people out there that are perhaps struggling and have similarities in their life to you, what would you, what would you say to them quickly.
[00:50:19] Ricci: [00:50:19] You can do it. There’s, there is a way, it might not be bootcamp. It might be something else in your life, but there is a way.
[00:50:27] Nothing is forever. Yeah. Make the change today. Don’t wait til tomorrow.
[00:50:31] Craig: [00:50:31] Amazing. Right. Ricky, thank you very much. Look forward to the wa bloody, I forgot the old music again. Keep doing that. You’re doing a lot to just panic. Patty out for a couple of seconds until the music kicks in. No, no, seriously. Thanks a lot for you, for your effort.
[00:50:45] You’re heading up to camp now for Sophia. Back on the week
[00:50:48] Ricci: [00:50:48] videos, it’s difficult to get.
[00:50:49] Craig: [00:50:49] What’s the, what’s the chance of you getting a bootcamp for the week?
[00:50:52] Ricci: [00:50:52] Well, I’ve been here a year and a half an hour. Not a yet. So I’ve got hoping never had it cause the camp, the is a deck, so
[00:50:58] Craig: [00:50:58] always someone else’s fault.
[00:51:00] [00:51:00] And what about Jada? She ever had it.
[00:51:03] Ricci: [00:51:03] She’s had it. Yeah. How long is ours once? Yeah. That’s just because she passed it off. No, no, no. She tried to off.
[00:51:12] Craig: [00:51:12] Alright, mate, thank you very much in the next episode.
[00:51:14] Ricci: [00:51:14] Yeah.